Just bought a 98 RS, What Now? - Page 4 - Team-2G Mitsubishi Forum

four0juan · 09-16-2008, 04:29 PM

thanks man

EkToR · 09-16-2008, 05:32 PM

Dont you guys notice that the ones "on favor" of this threads are new, or relatively new people to the boards? you guys have to understand something. We are dealing with cars that are anywhere from 9 to 18 years old. This means that this kinds of questions are no "new science" for us. In fact, it is at some point annoying because we have answered this question literally hundreds of times, and just because somebody doesn't want to spend 5 minutes reading, we have to shut up and answer their question... You are right, we are here to help. But don't make us work double just cause you just got here and you don't wanna research like most of us have done already... Hell I don't even expect this kinds of questions for my community (2008+ lancer) cause even tho its a relatively new market, engine, mods, almost all has been discussed already.... the search button is a gift of God.... Use it.

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Originally Posted by supa_dupa_man

I disagree... I put together my 1st turbo kit for approx. $500... granted I only ran 8psi... but it was fast at the time...

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Originally Posted by supa_dupa_man

I did mine "Right"... you can do anything "Right" if you know the right people... the most expensive thing I bought was my turbo manifold and that was like $40... Thats a turbo kit with a Turbonetics "star" manifold, Garrett 47trim, XSengineering 38mm WG, Earls plumbing oil lines, and fittings, AGP FMIC, TurboXS MBC, and a tAil BOV...

So yea, I still beg to differ...

you gotta take into consideration the maintenance and the amount of common sense that people apply when building a kit. A lot of people don't even care about the maintenance and start boosting the cars when they need a lot or TLC to be able to handle boost. At this point is where a $500 kit will become a $4000 ordeal.

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Originally Posted by DOMINIC

WOW...MBA at 22? Did you start college at 16? lol

I went to a college where they donrt believe in breaks nor vacations lol... Search for "Full Sail" on this boards and you will find some info that i posted years ago.

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Originally Posted by four0juan

thanks man

I apologize for jumping at you like that. Read the beginning of this post and you should understand.

supa_dupa_man · 09-16-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EkToR

you gotta take into consideration the maintenance and the amount of common sense that people apply when building a kit. A lot of people don't even care about the maintenance and start boosting the cars when they need a lot or TLC to be able to handle boost. At this point is where a $500 kit will become a $4000 ordeal.

Yea, I was talking about after maintenance... but thank you for clairifying.

Flipboi89 · 09-17-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lycan96

flip why should this thread be shut down? The guy had legit questions.

do you not see all this off topic shit in this thread? sure yes the guy has legit questions but the question has been asked a million times have you read the title? same damn question asked a million times and you are in the same boat.. SEARCH!!! its not hard unless your an idiot.

supa_dupa_man · 09-17-2008, 12:51 PM

Yea, this question has been asked millions of times... and there is alot of off topic shit in this thread... let me lock it...

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Oh yea.... I'm not a mod... forgot. HAHAHA

ktumlin · 09-18-2008, 01:07 AM

Let me clear up anything that i may have started, first of all i was trying to do was give this guy advice and some of the things that i have found and seen that mabe not everyonr has, Keep in mind just because you havent seen or heard of something doesnt mean it is'nt possible. So, i love all DSM no matter what the engine or model. Everyone here feels the same i hope. So in my opinion we are all one in the same weather your turbo or n/a or weather you make 70k a year or 7k a year. So i appologize to anyone i offended or upset. Just do me a favor and don't jump my a** because you dont agree with something i say. My opinions and my information are put up here as i have seen it and the experiences i have had, so dont knock it please. Thanks people.

Maurice'sRS-T · 09-18-2008, 06:04 AM

If you had facts instead of your opinion, I don't think people would be knocking you. There is me and 3 other people on here that either have or had boosted 420a's, and nobody seems to agree with you. So show us some facts to back up what you are saying and people will not knock you as much. We are all entitled to our opinions, but when somebody is asking for advice, give them the facts, not a misguided opinion.

SlowPOS · 09-18-2008, 10:21 AM

Amen!!

jack_of_trades · 09-18-2008, 02:39 PM

Ok, now I gotta sit and read this whole thread and chime in to settle any mislead info. I hate reading,lol.

kandyinmyvan · 09-18-2008, 05:39 PM

I wouldn't even waste your time Jamie. I don't think anybody with a shred of common sense would use this thread for any sort of techinical info.

EkToR · 09-18-2008, 07:32 PM

I would LOVE to listen to Jamie here :)

jack_of_trades · 09-18-2008, 10:06 PM

Ok, finally read this thread. Ktumlin, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your opinion on the integrity of the 420A vs. the 4G63 is quite skewed. The 420A is definitely a 'promising' design but it was not designed to withstand immense amounts of power that the 4G63 is capable of. Any engine can crankwalk....ANY. Yes there are cases of CW on the 420A, search 2gnt.com and you'll find 'em. The 420A has a very solid bedplate design which makes it far less likely though. Dollar for dollar, the 4G63 kills the 420A. Any engine can be blueprinted and built for great performance but the 4G63 needs tweaks while the 420A needs a makeover.

Moving on....to the OP, search man. There are some REALLY awesome threads buried in this forum regarding a lot of turbo 420A stuff. You got flack from everyone only becuase it was a noob thread, not because we hate ya

Turbo'ing a bone stock 420A is fine if you are happy with around 250-275hp (at the crank, not at the wheels). My recommendation is better timing and fuel control. Everything else is a bolt-on affair and is very simple. I suggest either the new AEM fuel/ignition controller or a megasquirt stand-alone ECU. In my opinion, save up for one of those FIRST, then piece together a nice little turbo kit. What kills a stock engine thats been turbo'd is usually poor timing control. Don't use a S-AFC as I've found that it actually can force your timing to advance MORE when you try to lean out the fuel (I'll start a thread explaining this more thoroughly when I have time).

Get along, stay on topic and the thread lives another day.

P.S. A stock long block/turbo'd 420A can be faster than a stock 5 speed GSX if done correctly. Ask me how I know

EkToR · 09-29-2008, 03:13 AM

Jamie for president!

95GSTreez · 11-03-2008, 08:46 PM

Wow, that moderator clean house with that post lol. I have the same plans as this guy. When i first looked at the thread i wanted to see where'd it go cause im trying to learn before i ask too many question and get on peoples nerves. I've heard alot of my buddies go about putting a turbo kit peice by peice.

1 question though....are there and injectors from other year eclipse's that would be a upgrade from the stock 420a ones? Any ive heard a lil about adding a resistor box too. can anyone clarify?

Fozzymuphet · 11-04-2008, 12:09 AM

what's a dsm....... : )