ReMiX

well its starting to get to that time (parking my car in 2 weeks for the tear down and rebuild) and i know i am going to run a holset turbo with slowboys tubular manifold, but i cant find any recomendations on what wastegate to use. im looking at tail, and i know it will be external. any ideas?

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VRMAN

Tial 38mm external gate is your best choice. Quality is top notch and the price is affordable. Go for it!

ReMiX

theres my new turbo (sitting across from me) next to a 14b . thats a holset HX-40

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VRMAN

Sweet pic and good luck with the Holset. I keep seeing mixed reviews on the turbo so I wish you the best. What wastegate did you go with?

ReMiX

it has a 38mm internal. ended up getting the turbo used for a good price and some parts.

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Argh, shit :? When I said "mixed reviews" all the negative reviews were about how utterly crappy the internal gate is on the Holset turbos but that the wheels and everything are fine. So when I saw you were asking about external gates then I thought you were okay. Gotta do your homework. I went to DSMtuners and veteran members running this turbo HATE the internal gate and it led to super slow spool and creep problems. Here is just one of the many I found:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...&highlight=PTE

If I were you, I'd weld the internal shut and get the Tial you were looking at.

ReMiX

i hate dsm tunners. 9 outta 10 of the holset owners on there know shjit about the turbo


i was gonna buy a new one, but i got this used good condition one for cheep from a freind, so yeah i did my home work.

and the gate only has problems at higher psi. im lookin at 30psi. bullseye said i should have no prob, garunteed


noticed not one of those turbo modles metioned are mine also? i saw 3 other modles metioned, but not my HX-40

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Well I wouldn't say 9 out of 10, some of the guys are people I know have experience with various setups.

^^^That makes no sense. If it has problems at higher psi, what do you think 30psi is? That will grenade your motor.

Spyderman4g63

My friend Tim is running 11.8's with the HX45 here in H-Town. I told yall it was bad ass. 438whp in a 90 GSX :thumb: The stock internal WG's are shit though. So go external.

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ReMiX

well when bullseye says it cabable of 40+psi., i dont consider 30psi to be on the higher end

for now im gonna stick with the internal gate. my freind bought it and used it on his lazer and it worked fine at 35psi. when i get later in my build if i have the $$ ill go external, otherwise im gonna wait till next summer to switch it

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VRMAN

Capable of 40psi is fine, but if you think you are going to run 30psi on your 4cylinder DSM without a rediculous amount of forged internals you are sorely mistaken. Not to mention you would need to be running 114 octane all day to do it.

Attack Eagle

anyone who thinks 30 psi is LOW boost is either seriously jaded or seriously misinformed


and anyone who believes bulleye (as in bang! another sucker) over NABR people like Grocman deserves what they get.

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Attack Eagle

Agreed, it's jsut bullseye that has given them a black eye, it's not the turbos themselves...

and of course the fact that they don't fit near as well on a 1g as on a 2g.

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ReMiX

umm yeah 114 octane :roll: . im seeing that. im gonna do it on the same gas its always gotten, 93 octane from mobil.






did you read that?? i plan on rebuilding my entire dsm. (to say it for like the 50 time on team 2g) ill be running a 2.4 DOHC motor from a galant with awd. every 2.4 i have seen STOCK has been more then capable of running better at higher psi the the 4g63.

but just an fyi, i was running 21psi of boost on my btb16g turbo.... on pump 93 octane.... on my 4g63, with very little lower end work done to it


as for the psi state ment about how i considered 30psi to be low. 2 other people i know have this turbo and one is at 42psi and the other is at 51 psi (yeah on pump gass too). so when you look at it like that, id say 30 is a pretty low # in aspect to that. on top of that, with my dual stage boost controller, ill prolly be driving around at 14-18psi untill i hit the low-high button



i also think bullseye is a good compony.



good thing i have a 2g then huh?

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