1st gen talon - Team-2G Mitsubishi Forum

lilredturbochick · 12-01-2005, 01:01 PM

so i'm not sure where this question would go...but a guy in my area is selling a 1st gen talon turbo awd for $500 and he says he thinks it's problems are piston rings that need to be replaced and the turbo also needs to be replaced. Are these issues something a newb to engine work like me would be able to do with some help from a mechanic-savvy friend who is unfamiliar to this engine? Is this a good buy? Would it be better to use parts from it to put into my 2g? I'd hate to part it since it AWD though... what do you guys think?

DR1665 · 12-01-2005, 02:16 PM

Do a compression test on it. Start it and let it idle until it gets up to temp. Unless the piston rings are completely gone, the engine should still run. If he says it won't run, then there are likely other issues, but for $500, it's a good deal if the trans is good and the block has no holes in it.

Your best bet would be to find a completely built (as in assembled, not necessarily race built with upgraded internals) 4G63T and then swap it over. You could do that with your friend.

SexperT · 12-01-2005, 02:28 PM

sounds good to me if there's not big problems to worry about, good deal.

lilredturbochick · 12-01-2005, 04:53 PM

thanks for the help guys, i think i'm going to take my friend over to give it a look tomorrow see what the deal is, i'll certainly get back if it's anything worthwhile

VRMAN · 12-01-2005, 08:02 PM

I would most definately say it is NOT an easy project to just pick up. Essetially you will be doing an engine rebuild. And if it gets to where you have to replace the piston rings and you have torn apart an old engine, you might as well do a rebuild with the labor hours already going into it. But that isn't just like changing the oil and plugs, you know?

If this is going to be your FIRST DSM turbo or you are learning the basics of car mechanics then I would really recommend picking up a full running car first because of the price you can get them for. Of course a shell for $500 is fine but by the time you get everything replaced, maintainance service and aligned then have about the same price except now you are over 15 hours of time you could have been already driving your car.

Check on www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds and find yourself a clean 90-94 for a good affordable price. Shizt, I got my 1991 GS-T with 121K on it, GReddy Type S and recently rebuiltt 14B for $1500. Just the motor, fresh tires and mods make it worth that already nearly. I think that is the best route for you, less headaches and more fun. Think about it, just with basic performance modifications on the stock turbo, you can trap nearly 100mph! That's pretty damn fast for severe budget.

Here are some good and cheap 1Gs to maybe start with
(anyone asking 3K will take 2500):

http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...1&cat=2&page=7

http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...&cat=2&page=12

http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...&cat=2&page=13

http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...1&cat=2&page=9

Draggo42684 · 12-01-2005, 08:12 PM

Myles, the third one is the one I was telling you about before and you told me its not worth it, it needs soem exterior work. You probably forgot about that. Also she lives in Florida but that list isnt a too bad of a start I guess. Anyways, PM me bro because I got back from the on-base doctor and it looks like I have an STD now which sucks! :(

AWDspyder · 12-02-2005, 01:02 AM

500 for an AWD 1g is great, yes it will need work but if you have the time and money it will be a good time. 1g's needed a lot of maintance and most people never gave them what they needed hence most being kinda ****ty and unreliable. Give it some work and it will be great.

Sorry Dan about the STD its ok.

Draggo42684 · 12-02-2005, 01:37 AM

MYLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You ****in son of a one legged bitch with a cock nose. Your tooo ****in much homie lmao.

lilredturbochick · 12-02-2005, 04:34 PM

some good info, unfortuantely after looking at this car i had to pass anyway, the guy didn't mention that it had some body damage and body work is not something i want to do...but yeah hopefully in the near future i will be able to afford something to learn on/play with aside from a daily driver, thanks for the help guys :)

12-01-2005, 01:01 PM	#1
lilredturbochick New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 42	1st gen talon so i'm not sure where this question would go...but a guy in my area is selling a 1st gen talon turbo awd for $500 and he says he thinks it's problems are piston rings that need to be replaced and the turbo also needs to be replaced. Are these issues something a newb to engine work like me would be able to do with some help from a mechanic-savvy friend who is unfamiliar to this engine? Is this a good buy? Would it be better to use parts from it to put into my 2g? I'd hate to part it since it AWD though... what do you guys think? __________________ just one chance, just one breath, just in case there's just one left

12-01-2005, 02:16 PM	#2
DR1665 Lambo Hunter Join Date: May 2004 Location: 2GNT.com Posts: 1,526	Do a compression test on it. Start it and let it idle until it gets up to temp. Unless the piston rings are completely gone, the engine should still run. If he says it won't run, then there are likely other issues, but for $500, it's a good deal if the trans is good and the block has no holes in it. Your best bet would be to find a completely built (as in assembled, not necessarily race built with upgraded internals) 4G63T and then swap it over. You could do that with your friend. __________________ DR1665.com \| Answers.

12-01-2005, 02:28 PM	#3
SexperT Honda Eater Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Yeya!!! Posts: 541	sounds good to me if there's not big problems to worry about, good deal. __________________ 1991 FWD Talon TSi - SOLD!!! :( 1995 AWD Talon TSi - Slow.. 60trimmed. Dont fix it...Upgrade it.

12-01-2005, 04:53 PM	#4
lilredturbochick New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 42	thanks for the help guys, i think i'm going to take my friend over to give it a look tomorrow see what the deal is, i'll certainly get back if it's anything worthwhile __________________ just one chance, just one breath, just in case there's just one left

12-01-2005, 08:12 PM	#6
Draggo42684 Lambo Hunter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Harvey, Louisiana Posts: 1,381	Myles, the third one is the one I was telling you about before and you told me its not worth it, it needs soem exterior work. You probably forgot about that. Also she lives in Florida but that list isnt a too bad of a start I guess. Anyways, PM me bro because I got back from the on-base doctor and it looks like I have an STD now which sucks! :( __________________ S14 240sx coming soon... Last edited by VRMAN; 12-01-2005 at 08:27 PM.

12-01-2005, 08:02 PM	#5
VRMAN Lambo Hunter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sandy Eggo Posts: 1,493	I would most definately say it is NOT an easy project to just pick up. Essetially you will be doing an engine rebuild. And if it gets to where you have to replace the piston rings and you have torn apart an old engine, you might as well do a rebuild with the labor hours already going into it. But that isn't just like changing the oil and plugs, you know? If this is going to be your FIRST DSM turbo or you are learning the basics of car mechanics then I would really recommend picking up a full running car first because of the price you can get them for. Of course a shell for $500 is fine but by the time you get everything replaced, maintainance service and aligned then have about the same price except now you are over 15 hours of time you could have been already driving your car. Check on www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds and find yourself a clean 90-94 for a good affordable price. Shizt, I got my 1991 GS-T with 121K on it, GReddy Type S and recently rebuiltt 14B for $1500. Just the motor, fresh tires and mods make it worth that already nearly. I think that is the best route for you, less headaches and more fun. Think about it, just with basic performance modifications on the stock turbo, you can trap nearly 100mph! That's pretty damn fast for severe budget. Here are some good and cheap 1Gs to maybe start with (anyone asking 3K will take 2500): http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...1&cat=2&page=7 http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...&cat=2&page=12 http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...&cat=2&page=13 http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds...1&cat=2&page=9

12-02-2005, 01:02 AM	#7
AWDspyder Post-Fiend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lil' Rhody Posts: 2,453	500 for an AWD 1g is great, yes it will need work but if you have the time and money it will be a good time. 1g's needed a lot of maintance and most people never gave them what they needed hence most being kinda ****ty and unreliable. Give it some work and it will be great. Sorry Dan about the STD its ok. __________________ 1991 Talon AWD....Don't be scurred "There is only one holiday that means anything and you are to make the holy pilgrimmage to Norwalk for it every year." - Driggs

12-02-2005, 01:37 AM	#8
Draggo42684 Lambo Hunter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Harvey, Louisiana Posts: 1,381	MYLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You **in son of a one legged bitch with a cock nose. Your tooo **in much homie lmao. __________________ S14 240sx coming soon...

12-02-2005, 04:34 PM	#9
lilredturbochick New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 42	some good info, unfortuantely after looking at this car i had to pass anyway, the guy didn't mention that it had some body damage and body work is not something i want to do...but yeah hopefully in the near future i will be able to afford something to learn on/play with aside from a daily driver, thanks for the help guys :) __________________ just one chance, just one breath, just in case there's just one left

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